Will this game have bots in MP?

[SauceBoss]

So from the latest trailer and also from the gameplay of the much older build, I see what looks like the player being able to spawn bots while in cover. Is this a part of the gameplay mechanics that they have not specified yet? I am curious because, if true, it sounds like a very innovating and interesting tool of the game.

[Lever]

I believe we'll be able to summon AI controlled minions (or whatever you want to call them), but we don't really have any hard and fast info at the moment.

Also, welcome to the forums :D

[XxSteelPhoenixX]

Welcome! Enjoy your stay!

[DiBBz]

TBH i dont really know they could after all its a TPS if its was like section 8 a bit with the hole putting AI in games etc it would be gd in a way yes but bad casue there would be boosters using the bots as a form of gaining exp faster if the put it so that u could not gain or hardly gain any Exp from bots in game that would even it out

[Lever]

Gears of War does that as well I think. So long as the ai is decent, then I see no reason not to have it in there to keep the game balanced. It can be really frustrating to get into a game and realize that it's 2v5 >.<

[DiBBz]

no GOW dose not have that i have all 3 and there is no option for AI however the dam shotguns are op all u have to do is bank rush them get to cover fire blind then go rampage its stupid as **** but i guess tahts what got me into and its campain

[Lever]

Huh, I thought GoW 2 or 3 would have a bot fill in if a player dropped... it doesn't ask it just pops into the game.

Ugh... the shotguns..... that's pretty much why I stopped playing.... Although the Campaign was fairly enjoyable

[DiBBz]

no not anymore they dont they updated so that anyone on GOW would get a popmsg at the top right saiying "tommy match is looking for players" and then u would press back i think it is to join thier game alot of player quit that day due to that patch

[Lever]

Ahhh, kk. I stopped playing Gears around September of last year, I think... so I wasn't aware that they had been pulled out.

[DiBBz]

ur like me i stopped playing it around that time but i only heard about the patch from the forums it got implemented in about mid december time so i woulded really know untill i try it out again

[Cosy]

I would think it is possible as you can 'summon' units which are AI that fight for you. So AI is definitely in there, just whether it is to the full extent as being a full player.

[DiBBz]

well i guess we would not really know until we get a bit more info or if a walkthrough comes out

[XxSteelPhoenixX]

Lol how is the WT gonna come out? Their not close to finishing the game.

[Lever]

I'd like to know how someone's going to do a walkthrough for a multiplayer only game. Maybe someone could write up some strategy/tactics and map overviews.

[DiBBz]

i wish they would do a dev live stream to let us know whats going on new changes etc etc and WTH is WT

[XxSteelPhoenixX]

Yeah but remember that reveals too much, you wanna keep it secret!

[Lever]

I wonder if they'd let the Beta testers do a live stream, or take videos at least, once we get close to release...

Also, WT = Walk Through

[Lever]

I seem to have double posted...

[DiBBz]

yeh i was not meaning now i was talking in the near future and ok WT = walkthrough

[XxSteelPhoenixX]

Yeah WT=Walkthrough.

I think they should walkthrough the layout.

[DiBBz]

yeh sorta do a sytle like what firefall are doing exsplaining all what matters to the gamers

[XxSteelPhoenixX]

Yeah, I agree. Lol is a admin even listening?

[Lever]

I'm pretty sure they are, somewhat at least. According to their twitter, a group from 5th cell are at GDC this week, so we may start seeing the admins around a bit more after that.

[DiBBz]

lolz they will be yes if we have broke a rule they would at least let us know or if we have done somthing bad anyway

[Lever]

So, bots in MP. We know that there will be summonable drone things. Do we really want more AI though? I'm more concerned about whether or not players will be able to join a game in progress.

What would you guys prefer? AI takes over for quitters, or people just join the game in progress?

[XxSteelPhoenixX]

I would Like it if the AI take over for quitters, and then if someone comes in they get replaced.

[FearTheKumquat]

I thought that all players were going to be on one big map, and there weren't many (if any) limited-team mechanics involved? Also, I'm starting to wonder if the summoned guys were other players, and not AI drones. It would be nice to call in reinforcements if necessary.

[XxSteelPhoenixX]

I would Like it if the AI take over for quitters, and then if someone comes in they get replaced.

[Lever]

I thought that all players were going to be on one big map, and there weren't many (if any) limited-team mechanics involved? Also, I'm starting to wonder if the summoned guys were other players, and not AI drones. It would be nice to call in reinforcements if necessary.

We aren't sure yet, but it seems that Hybrid will use a match system, with wins helping to capture a territory. This is only conjecture at this point though, we don't really know a whole lot at the moment.

[XxSteelPhoenixX]

We aren't sure yet, but it seems that Hybrid will use a match system, with wins helping to capture a territory. This is only conjecture at this point though, we don't really know a whole lot at the moment.

We arn't real sure what they are going to be doing now.

[Cosy]

Yes AI when somoene quits then when someone joins it gets replaced. Thus keeping balance and then AI's difficulty can be determined by either the player who left or just put as a default value.

[XxSteelPhoenixX]

Yeah, I totally agree.

[Lever]

Yeah, keeping the balance is definitely a requirement in multiplayer. If they do go with bots then hopefully the AI is good enough to hold it's own. That was an issue in GoW3, back when I was playing it. The AI would take over, and it was pretty terrible XD.

[XxSteelPhoenixX]

Like how? Were they better than the players or what?

[Lever]

The bot's in GoW3 were pretty terrible tbh, at least once you got used to the weapons. I've seen teams that were 4 bots and 1 actual player, and those types of teams got mopped up pretty quick. There's only so much an AI can do without being allowed to, basically, cheat.

[XxSteelPhoenixX]

Lol there a difference from complete crap and cheating. Lol were they not good at all?

[Lever]

Coding AI seems to be tough for replacing people, as it's impossible for the devs to account for every possibility. The games that have hard AI opponents seem to allow the AI to always know where the human players are. The AI in GoW3 was pretty awful at release XD

[XxSteelPhoenixX]

Yeah you can't have them too good or bad.

[DiBBz]

bots are always terrible in games unless its a RTS game they will own u like **** if u have them on insane

[XxSteelPhoenixX]

Lol bots suck when they are insane. O.o